Monday, February 25, 2008

Hilarious

This is almost on par with Shalash al-Iraqi, I've been following this Ameer al-Magamee'a guy for a while and he's quickly polishing his material. This is an extremely rude and extremely hilarious satire of Sunni MP Khalaf al-Alyaan, in which he supposedly tries to pose nude after reading about Victoria Beckham's recent stunt. It's a shame he's a tad sectarian in some of his articles, but that doesn't mean he's not funny.
link:

غيرة بيكهام وتفاعل خلف العليان



16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Typical sectarian Shi'ite polemics. What's so funny about it?

Abbas Hawazin said...

This guy also criticizes Hakim and Sadr at times, but like you said, he is often criticizing the other side. What matters to me I guess is that he's funny.

Mayssam said...

Abbas ,
If criticizing the other side often is secterian in your eyes, then almost every iraqi sunny blogger is Taifi . Actually all sunnies i know never do any self-criticism or point fingers at them selvs , they just keep on attacking the OTHER and blaming him foreverything. Sometimes I think sunnies wanted their own tragedy so bad , but when it finally happened , they didn't learn or tried to learn anything from it. I hope am wrong but so far nothing i saw or heard or read proved me wrong .
You on the other hand is a little different , you are not in complete denial , you admit that there was something deeply wrong and that relations between iraqis were not as good as many would like outsiders to believe , you also want to know more and looking for answers , i respect that and think you are on the right path .
Personnally i don't think you will find the answers for all your questions in history books , your post " the myth of Chite-Sunni unity " was a repetion and had nothing new , especially for iraqis , i think asking iraqis about the 1980s and 1990s Iraq will prove useful for you. You can start with your family , friends and people you know from Adhamia . you talk of certain things as you are just discovering them , you still have a lot to know.
I hope you will not be offended by what i said.

Iraqi Mojo said...

It's clear that Abbas is not typical of Sunni bloggers who always blame the Shia. This post is an example.

Anonymous said...

They attack the other because it is the shroog who are the cause of all our problems in Iraq. It is a fact.

Abbas Hawazin said...

okay mayssam, so are you saying that the way Iraqis were in the 1980s and 90s was the real (united) way and that this 1400-years long historical struggle is the 'fake' one?

BlogIraqi said...

I think we're bending some facts here. I believe the criticism is directed towards the politicians that are using sectarianism as their survival card.
I believe Sunni people and Shiaa people can live together peacefully. All we need to do is to get rid of the politicians using sectarianism as a reason.
I have said that before and say it again. What is Adnan Al-Dulaimi or Khalaf Al-Iliyan if they are not the representatives of the poor Sunnis?
What do they worth as politicians?
What is their political program?
And what is Abdul-Aziz Al-Hakim or Ibrahim Al-Jaafari if they are no the representatives of the poor Shiaa?
What do they worth as politicians?
What is their political program?
The answer to all these questions is simply "Nothing".
They rely on sectarianism to assure their existence because without sectarianism and without having a strong enemy they just do not worth a crap.
This goes for all the other politicians who hide under sectarianism and ethnic-representations.
No one there is a true politicians that cares enough to pick-up this country from the dark hole it has been in for a long time.

Abbas Hawazin said...

BlogIraqi,

What you're saying is right, but you fail to realize that the problem is not in a person itself, if Abdilaziz al-Hakim, or Badr, or Harith al-Dhari dies, they will be replaced by other people from the same community: the problem is in the community itself, anyone basing his ideology on religion will be unacceptable because the religious doctrines of Sunnism and Shiism are hostile to each other in themselves, people coexist because they tend to ignore those doctrines or because they are not present in everyday life (in secular rule), in a religious system, those differences will most certainly engulf everyone in hatred.

Mayssam said...

" okay mayssam, so are you saying that the way Iraqis were in the 1980s and 90s was the real (united) way and that this 1400-years long historical struggle is the 'fake' one?"

Dear Abbas,
I didn't say that , I know better than you how Iraq was in the 1980s and 1990s , I think its my english that caused the misunderstanding.
What i wanted to say is that looking in Iraq's recent history is very useful for those who want to understand why Iraq is like this now.
I believe that the change of places and positions of Iraqi groups is number 1 reason for the blood shed .
I meant to tell you that talking to people , even those who you consider as your enemies , could be more useful than history books.
I have few questions if you don't mind : what did you know about SHROOGS and their BACKWARD beliefs before the 19/3/2003? Have you ever travelled inside Iraq? Do you think Chiisme is more rediculous than Islam? Do you like Rammstein?
Thank you.

Abbas Hawazin said...

ًًWhat did you know about SHROOGS and their BACKWARD beliefs before the 19/3/2003?

First, I never called Shia shroogs, nor did I call their beliefs backward, I only wanted to say that the view of Sunnis and Shias cannot be repaired and will never be.

2. Have you ever travelled inside Iraq?

Only Diyala in the 1990 war.

3. Do you think Chiisme is more rediculous than Islam?

Ch? Why Ch? No I don't think so. Shiism is an interpretation of Islam ; but it's very very different from Sunni Islam, I am not here to judge who's right or wrong, I only say they're very different.

You seem to think I have a personal grudge, actually, most of my college-day friends were Shias from the south, at some point, my best friend was Karbala'lie.

Do you like Rammstein?

Absoutely not.

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