Monday, March 10, 2008

Categories of Syrian Hijab

Being a closeted Pan-Arabist (democracy first!) , there are two countries I especially like: Egypt and Syria. Egypt was the leader of the modern Arab world, even though that role has faded with the stagnation of the Pan-Arab movement, weighted down by dictatorships, Egypt remains the cultural and intellectual hub of the Middle East. Syria, in spite of all its totalitarian, evil-axis troubles, has also managed to wield an impact on the larger Arab world recently. I've been to Syria last September, and it looks just like Iraq before the war (it even has Iraqis :D) but there are waaaay more pictures of Bashar al-Assad than Saddam Hussein ever did.
Here's a brilliant caricature drawn by Puppeteer, whose blog is now defunct. [click to enlarge]

32 comments:

Iraqi Mojo said...

This is cool! I like the first three:) It's funny cuz last night I saw a group of fat women all wearing black hijab and black baggy dresses, and I asked myself why fat (and unattractive) women wear hijab and 3ibayas. As if guys will not be able to control their primitive impulses and might sexually assault the defenseless fatties. I was going to write a post about it, but I thought it might offend some people. Then this morning I saw your post, and so maybe we can discuss it here.

Gilgamish said...

I believe seeing something similar but different from that list, the iraqi shi'a u have in your list was an egyptian in the list i have seen b4.

Anonymous said...

Some people wear hijab because they are very religious. God did not put a weight limit on who should and shouldn't wear a hijab. My mother "a fatty" is a devout Muslimah and never leaves her house without it.

Abbas Hawazin said...

there is actually a Sharia law permitting old women to shed down their hijab if necessary (i.e. if they're in a hurry or something)

i'm not an expert, but this is what i know.

Besides, you never know, I myself have felt attraction to women other people find absolutely repulsive.

Iraqi Mojo said...

anon, I'm sorry if you found the term "fatty" offensive. There are many fatties in my own extended family who wear hijab and 3ibaya. I find it amusing. Maybe I'm Americanized. Isn't the purpose of hijab to protect women from lustful men? It just seems that the majority of women who wear hijab are unattractive, and would probably repel men even without hijab.

Maybe the funniest thing to me is when a hottie wears hijab with a tight blouse and tight jeans. An example of hypocrisy, I think. But damn it looks good:) I'm not complaining here, and I think women should be allowed to wear whatever they want. I'm just being honest, and I hope nobody is offended by my opinions.

Jeffrey said...

If there has to be a veil, I'll take a woman who wears a veil like Jeannie from the 60s sitcom "I Dream of Jeannie," starring Larry Hagman and Barabara Eden:

How about like this?

Or this?

Or this?

Yes, master.

Ah, more pleasant words were never spoken.

Heh heh.

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Anonymous said...

ِAs usual, Muhannad Zainy comes across as insensitive and ignorant. He seems very proud to be "Americanized." Let's hope Jeffrey Schuster approves, Zainy. Keep on sucking cock.

Muhannad said...

What am I ignorant of, exactly? How am I insensitive? I'm sorry if I offended any fat people. I guess I was hoping to spark a discussion about the hijab, and why Muslim women wear it. What is the purpose of hijab? Is it not to repel lustful and lewd men? Am I ignorant? Does the Qur'an say that women must cover their hair? Please explain. 3afya help me gain the knowledge that you possess.

Jeffrey said...

Not-Head,

Go back to Zeyad's.

As usual, you offer NOTHING to the comversation.

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Gilgamish said...

iraqi mojo and mohanned, you did not offend ppl.

I guess it bottom downs of them being religious, nothing more or else.

But sometimes when some women wear the scarf they become even more attractive, i remember the aljazeera anchor, when she wore the scarf my dad started to even love her more and thought she looked even more fabulous.

Muhannad said...

shukren gilgamish. I agree that some women look even more attractive when they wear hijab. Some women look good in just about anything:)

neurotic_wife said...

Agool KK, zain wain il 3ira8ee sinnee 7ijab ha??? Lazim itkoon mun9if,lol... J/K btw, hessa 3abalhum im 6a2ifiya oo manikhla9...God...

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Personally, I think a woman's attire should be her choice, without any pressure to conform to rigid standards. And this includes any pressure, whether it comes from her peers or religious representatives. The one caveat I would add is that she should be responsible in her choice, as should men, btw. Obviously walking alongside the freeway naked would not be a good idea, for either gender. ;)

I guess I was hoping to spark a discussion about the hijab, and why Muslim women wear it. Muhannad

I think that's easy to guess at. There are probably all sorts of reasons, varying from true belief that it is a religious obligation, societal pressure to conform to what is the norm, and fear of adverse reactions by fundementalists.

Is it not to repel lustful and lewd men?

If this is one of the reasons, then the women are treating men like little children who cannot control their desires. Rather condescending in a way.

Gilgamish said...

"Some women look good in just about anything:)"

il 7ilu lo yilbas gouniya yub8a 7ilu. :D



"Agool KK, zain wain il 3ira8ee sinnee 7ijab ha??? Lazim itkoon mun9if,lol... J/K btw, hessa 3abalhum im 6a2ifiya oo manikhla9...God..."

a9lan that lady in the cartoon did not represent the shi3i way of 7ijb for starters :D shikla il 7ijab ma9ri :D

nadia n said...

Egyptian patriotism weirds me out. I support a Syrian-Iraqi merger though, you could piss off SCIRI the USA and Saudi Arabia AT THE SAME TIME.

CMAR II said...

[nadia n] I support a Syrian-Iraqi merger though, you could piss off SCIRI the USA and Saudi Arabia AT THE SAME TIME.

Hmm...why should the US have a problem with the democratically elected Iraqi government rubbing out the Ba'athist Syrian dictatorship and spreading liberty to more Arabs? ITM said the biggest problem with the US Iraq strategy is that it didn't move on to Syria and then Iran.

OH! I NOW I GET IT! You'd like to see the Ba'athists RETURN (al-awda) to Iraq from Syria and create a super-ba3thist state. Well, that makes sense. I mean, it makes sense that you would say that.

nadia n said...

I NOW I GET IT!

ORLY

Tom Bowler said...

"Being a closeted Pan-Arabist (democracy first!)"

In your opinion, where in the Middle East is democracy most likely to take hold first?

CMAR II said...

[tom bowler] In your opinion, where in the Middle East is democracy most likely to take hold first?

Iraq? Afghanistan? Israel? Naw! Probably not.

nadia n said...

Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East.

Turkey and Algeria both are far from perfect but they qualify, I think. I think Lebanon could become democratic if the government ever decides it wants to serve all its people.

Tom Bowler said...

Good point CMAR. Israel is a democracy, so I should have qualified my question and asked what Arab democracy would take hold first. I take it then, that in your opinion democracy has already taken hold in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as in Israel. I would agree that democracy is in place in both Iraq and Afghanistan, but I wonder if it has taken hold in either country to the extent that it will survive for any appreciable length of time. We can hope.

Also, good point, Nadia. Turkey is a democracy as well and I guess it qualifies as being part of the Middle East, although Algeria is African. I would agree that Lebanon is a good candidate, but from what I read Syrian interference presents a problem.

So Nadia, I had always thought of Afghanistan as being in the Middle East. Where does the Middle East end?

nadia n said...

In my personal opinion the middleast stops at Iran. In the days of British colonialism they lumped the arab region and south asia together, but I don't think that's a useful way to look at it now.

Usually North Africa is considered the middle east, the area is often referred to as the MENA region. If you didn't count North Africa, you would be discounting half the Arab speaking population!

It's not just Syria I was referring to with respect to Lebanon, the political system is highly sectarian and discrimination is a big problem, and the state infrastructure is weak and corrupt and doesn't really serve the majority of its people, which is truly a shame. Regardless I think there is a framework and civil society there that has potential if the political will ever comes to change things.

Tom Bowler said...

Nadia, as you say of the Lebanonese government, corruption is the thing that has to change. Corruption is the thing that will keep the Middle East mired in turmoil and poverty.

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Im a lady, i rather walk naked to and it doesnt matter if i was a fattie.

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