Wednesday, March 19, 2008

"No Baghdadi Mentioned The Surge"

Okay, so the shiny-happy why-not-go-back- to-Iraq camp's argument was that Nir Rosen is irreparably biased to be reporting meaningfully on Iraq, but I wonder what are you going to dig up on formerly pro-war Iraqi Christian blogger-turned-news photographer Ghaith Abdul-Ahad after watching his recent series of films, City of Walls, which is almost incomparable in pessimism with Rosen:

"I came to investigate the American military reports that violence is falling in Baghdad...that the US surge has transformed the city....what I found contradicts all the official reports, Baghdad is a city where one street is at war with the next, where the people are more desperate than I've ever seen them...it has been transformed into a city of walls...[these walls] are the main reason why the casualities have fallen, not because peace is an odd sway."

Ghaith visits two opposite Sunni and Shi'i districts, one of them is my district, al-Adhamiya, the part which he shows used to be a very lively place filled with car auto-shops, only dogs roam it now, what also amazed is the barbed wire and the gridlock put on the stairway over the highway, there were no such things when I was last there in September 2006.

A friend and I tried to discern whether what he meant by the opposite district was al-Qahira or al-Sha'ab, but in the end, we couldn't tell what it was, and couldn't care, because the only place it brought to our memory was quite telling.

Somalia.

Here's another video from that series.

NOTE: The district turned out to be al-Qahira, speaking of al-Qahira, here's a nice story, my aunt used to live next to our house in Adhamiya, they left to Egypt soon after we left to Jordan, my aunt's husband, Abdilhussein [the only Shia member of our family] returned for some family business a few months later, he wouldn't dare go to their Adhamiya house, so he spent his time in al-Qahira district.

A map of Baghdad clarifying the area where all of this took place.

47 comments:

Mayssam said...

Abbas
At least Adhamiya is not regularly targeted by carbombs and suicide attacks , also other types of attacks have dropped , this is a fact .
It takes time, my country man, for life to return to normal , be patient , besides you think iraq was good before so you shouldn't complain that much lol
You do know that one of the main objectives of the security plan ( or may be the only one) was to bring security to adhamiya and other sunni areas , its working so give it time.

Bruno said...

I think its pretty ironic that when a real live Iraqi corroborates Nir Rosen's accounts, the warpigs think that this doesn't confirm Nir to be right but the Iraqi to be wrong. These people live in their own reality.

Mayssam said...

عباس
كل عام وانت والاهل وجميع العراقيين بالف خير

Iraqi Mojo said...

Abbas, should we bring down the walls?

Gilgamish said...

lol its like east and west Jerusalem.

Abbas Hawazin said...

mayssam,

i didn't think iraq was good before, it was horrible. it's just i don't see it getting any better.

Anonymous said...

Today is the anniversary of the invasion.
I call it shock and awe day (SAD).
Happy SAD.
Chamblee54

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

it's just i don't see it getting any better.

What is the better alternative?

Don Cox said...

"it's just i don't see it getting any better."________Has it stopped getting worse?

Anonymous said...

Has it stopped getting worse?

that would depend on your concept of worse. one could consider the more people who get killed, the less there are to face their deaths in the future, so in that sense ome could imagine it gets better and better all the time. one could also imagine it is a lucky thing those bridges got blown up, it saves from having to deal w/the traffic passing over them.

there is a silver lining to everything don cox. even w/genocide you see, there are always going to be less people who suffer with the horrible conditions of life now in baghdad. after all, how could things get worse for the dead, they can't. so for many many people, even the chance of it getting worse is over, forever.

annie

A&Eiraqi said...

Abbas

Just coming back from a holiday, being told that there were days worse than what I lived, I'm trying to ignore the fact that it's less horrible because the city is being torn.
Just before I left Baghdad in July 2006, we went to Aadhamiya as Salam was proposing to Wise; it was quite dangerous and risky but no wall stopped us.

I just can't run away from reality; there is a generation bing lost, horrible circumstances people are living and the invaded country is being destroyed while its resources are stolen.

Not sure how tomorrow is going to look like and I feel scared of getting a hope.

A big question ruining me; how to solve our misry.
Is it possible that I'm just living a nightmare and will wake up soon?

It's five years now, more than just a nightmare.

Allah kareem

nadia n said...

I just wanted to say Juan Cole made a post about that music video you like so much.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I just listened to the videos. Did I hear correctly? He said that in his 3 weeks in Baghdad, 179 Iraqis were killed in the city? I thought it used to be 100 a day?

I don't think anyone likes the walls or the conditions there. But what alternative plan do you have to defuse the violence?

Abbas Hawazin said...

Naddawi,

I liked so much, since when? If I remember I shredded it on my post.

Anonymous said...

fuck off lynnette and leave iraq. that's the alternative. nothing good has come from your invasion so fuck off.

RhusLancia said...

anonymous, she said "defuse" the violence, not "ignite" it...

nadia n said...

If I remember I shredded it on my post.

Oh yes I remember too, irony doesn't always translate so well on the internet :P

madtom said...

Here in America people pay extra to live in a walled community. I really don't see how this proof that the surge has failed? Security is better, violence is down, reconstruction is starting back up again, and the central Government is actually starting to work out dispute, if only the easy stuff. Where is the failure. This is only a failure to those that lost in the resistance.

My advise, sell all your stock in Resistance funds, and buy Iraqi.

madtom said...

Addendum to my last comment. The fact that the people in Baghdad are not mentioning the "surge" is also proof of the new strategy and proof that it is working!!

Had we not changed the strategy and just sent in more troops to "search and destroy" everyone there would have been more than aware of the surge, and it would have failed. What else can I say. Mindless idiots.

CMAR II said...

Madtom,

Amen.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Anonymous,

fuck off lynnette and leave iraq.

Oh, yeah, now that's attractive. Sure, and that really makes me want to listen to you.

(That was sarcasm, btw. My guess is you wouldn't get that.)

All,

And since no one has come up with an actual alternate plan that has a chance in hell of working, my guess is there isn't one.

Don Cox said...

I asked a serious question, but all I get is a facetious answer from some anonymous poster. To those living in Baghdad, is the situation still getting worse? Or is it about as bad now as it was a year ago? Or is it slightly less bad? (Nobody could think it is good.)

anti-gawwad said...

why do these iraqi bloggers attract these american shits by the bucket?
ya3ni konfused kid is one, and iraqi mojo the stupidest blogger is another, and neurotic iraqi whore from the GZ is a third.
did your mother breastfeed you american dollars ya gwaweed?

another iraqi said...

even if we assumed that it is getting better, my guess is, on the long run, there will never be a completely safe environment.. there are so many hands involved in the situation to resolve that easily. especially Iran and Syria.. unless a miracle happens and the whole government staff changes into well educated non-fanatic sort of people.

so i guess its safe to say that iraq is screwed for some 5 more years.. another million widows should do the trick..

Anonymous said...

I asked a serious question, but all I get is a facetious answer from some anonymous poster.

not so, i signed my name at the bottom of my post. wrt facetious, that says more about you than my response , which was anything but facetious. face it, there is genocide, the more people dies, the less there will be to kill, this is common sense.



And since no one has come up with an actual alternate plan that has a chance in hell of working, my guess is there isn't one.


hmm, so walled it is lynn? alternet plan, how about no blackwater. no private militias devoid of law. no airaids, nighttime home invasions. no occupation propping up/paying off failed politiacal operative puppet governments.

funnt, all the way you support failed policies (like bremmer, seeds for civil war) and have the audacity to imply nobody has better terms, when in fact that isn't an option. what is an option is always a term the occupier approves of, in this case wall compounds, little palestines, all in the name of 'peace'. you are a joke.

once agian cox,the facetious comment? shows your shallownes, those people are realy really dead. the more who died, the more who leave iraq, the less there will be to kill. not funny, just genocide.

annie

Don Cox said...

"how about no blackwater. no private militias devoid of law."______Blackwater (and similar groups) have been a disaster. So have the various militias, whether Shia or Baathist. I think everyone except the members of those groups would agree on that.

Don Cox said...

"Another Iraqi" - I think you are right. So long as Iraq is surrounded by enemy states, there will be some trouble. But even the US and European countries are not totally safe from terrorism. ______Are you in Iraq?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Annie,

Been awhile. Usually I ignore you, but I promised someone that I would visit here and comment, and I try to keep my word.

Walled compounds? Yes, Annie, if that is what it takes to keep Iraqis and/or AQ from killing civilians.

how about no blackwater.

I don't care about Blackwater. If they want to use someone else for protection, fine.

no private militias devoid of law.

What is your plan to weed them out of the Iraqi security forces? What security forces will you use to arrest them?

no airaids,

Again, what security forces will you use in place of air raids to deal with people like Zarqawi and those that executed the bombing of the Yazidi community?

nighttime home invasions.

How do you propose to find militants(or in your words, "unlawful militias"), terrorists, or criminals, who are directly linked to the violence?

no occupation propping up/paying off failed politiacal operative puppet governments.

If the Iraqis want to replace any of their elected officials, they can do so in the next election.

another iraqi said...

don cox..
i used to live in iraq till november 2006. since then people sometimes say, hey, its getting better, a while after they say, oo'oh, its getting worse..

and to be honest, i dont think of ever going back to iraq untill a government that really does care for people who suffer or die everyday take control.. and the fanatic people who are in control of the parlament and the current government get their fair punishment.. get tickled to death lol.. sorry, its just laughter is the best medicine.. what is really funny is, i think if the (Tickle to death) punishment is applied litterly, it would be totally fair..

plus, i dont think that iran will ever let go of iraq, its an unfinished business that have been on hold since 1400 years, and now they have their chance.. in other words.. "its complicated"

uh.. enough about iraqi hell hole.. its depressing to talk about it.

annie said...

no private militias devoid of law.

What is your plan to weed them out of the Iraqi security forces? What security forces will you use to arrest them?


i didn't know iraqis security forces were devoid of iraqi law, i thought that was just US sponsored private militias. besides, iraqi security forces aren't, by definition, private. they are officially sponsored.

as for the US sponsored ones, you wouldn't have to weed them out, you would just have to eliminate the US required and bearing point authored law devoiding them from persecution and allowing them to go unpunished.

no airaids,

Again, what security forces will you use in place of air raids to deal with people


air raids are a tactic, not an identity. you eliminate the tactic and find alternative that avoid so much civilian casualties.

nighttime home invasions.

How do you propose to find militants


you mean beside waking people in the middle of the night and dragging them down to the prison for questioning? how about instead of 'finding militants we promote policies that eliminate the need for militants.

If the Iraqis want to replace any of their elected officials, they can do so in the next election

says nurse hatchet

Walled compounds? Yes, Annie, if that is what it takes to keep Iraqis and/or AQ from killing civilians.

if you were so concerned w/civilians you wouldn't support conducting air raids, which btw, happen to a lot more people than 'Zarqawi and those that executed the bombing of the Yazidi community
'

CMAR II said...

[annie calamity] i didn't know iraqis security forces were devoid of iraqi law, i thought that was just US sponsored private militias.

Umm...when did they stop being the Nobel Resistance and become "private militias"? I thought they patriotic heroes? So the US supports them and they become a menace to Iraq?

how about instead of 'finding militants we promote policies that eliminate the need for militants.

Hmmm..okay. How about putting the militants on the dole so they can't be tempted by money to plant carbombs and kidnap people? Then they will suddenly become part of the problem and then (I presume) the US can kill them with impunity. But then of course that would make them martyrs in Annie's view. I'm exhausted.

if you were so concerned w/civilians you wouldn't support conducting air raids,

The walls make the air raid unnecessary. Without the ability to come and go unregulated, the terrorists leave. I'm sure YOU live in a walled gated community. Either a nice suburban neighborhood or a mental institution.

annie said...


Umm...when did they stop being the Nobel Resistance and become "private militias"?


cmar, i was referring to blackwater etc. ("you would just have to eliminate the US required and bearing point authored law devoiding them from persecution and allowing them to go unpunished.") once again, as far as i know, iraqis are not devoid of iraqi law.

i didn't know considering alternatives for walled existences would be considered so radical, naturally you attack any alternative.


The walls make the air raid unnecessary.


really? so according to you there will be no air raids in walled communities? think again. it just makes for a more captive target, when the 'need' arises.

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